1000 hp Mustang

[Liquid]

That is one badass car! Theres just one thing....I have a feeling that a nissan, toyota, or even honda motor that was 5 liters+ at 20 psi would make much much more power than that thing.

[Liquid]

not a 5.0, this is the motor that came after the 5.0. Still a ford....
http://www.kierf.net/vids/top_gear46.avi
RCSA

[Tsunami]

Lol this is hillarious. People will believe it when Super Street talks about 1000hp Skylines but when it's a domestic noooo.....can't happen.

First of all the GR40 suspension this guy has is a 1.0g racing/street suspension that wins regularly in Nasa's American Iron series. This thing could run with or take out any Supra or GTR that came knocking on the door. This is easily a 9 second car on the drag strip, but without slicks he'd probably run mid 12's in the quarter.

I know Mustangs pretty well, and given the equipment on that ride I don't doubt that this is a 1000hp machine. I've been reading MM&FF for years, they don't mislead their readers. Evan J Smith is an accomplished drag racer and Richard Holdner works at a Mustang shop. These guys walk the walk and talk the talk and if they say this things's got 1000hp then I've got no reason not to beileve them. Lemme put it to you this way, how many 11 second or 1.0G cars have Super Street built themselves? MM&FF have built several.

Here's a wake up call for the unbeilvers: Hotrod Magazine and Super Street, and some other import mags are owned by PrimeMedia. Hotrod invited it's sister publications to bring some import out to it's pump-gas drags, and none of 'em had the stones to show up. So the imports haven't exactly taken over the world now have they?

1600hp Sklyine.....comeon you guys don't honesly think that's a street car do you? To get that much power would take over 50psi boost on that little motor, plus a ton of RPM's. Being around tractor pulling (read that big turbos) all my life I can attest that when you start shoving 50-100lbs of boost into an engine it's not gonna last very long.

My point is guys that hp takes money and shortens the life of the motor no matter how much technology or money you've put into the motor, or where the car was made. Plus when you try to push over 300-400hp through the tires you get wheelspin. And MM&FF's Richard Holdner tends to agree with me on that

[swifty949]

VeilSide has never claimed a 1600hp car. Thier Fortune Supra is 1000hp, the Drag Supra is 1300hp, both VeilSide drag skylines are 1300hp. The motor is built to last 2 days at the races.

1000hp is impressive no matter what make the car is. If Litgenfelter built 1000hp corvettes, why couldnt a mustang be 1000hp?

[Ghost of Duluth]

Weehoo, you tell em brother. I hate to say this but it resounds true. There is NO replacement for displacement. Yea, yea, yea, I know, a turbo. You can also put a turbo on the V8 though too. So it works both ways.

[Liquid]

how many liters does that motor have? anyone know? The only reason I ask is because thats a performance race motor, even if it's a daily driver. There are many supras and skylines that are daily drivers and make 1000hp on3 liters! Everyone knows that a 5+ liter toyota or nissan performance race motor would blow the doors off that. I don't see any argument here, the japanese make many more efficient and better motors that make more power per liter. I bet you can't think of the first company to make a production car that made 100hp per liter na? hmmm......honda

[Tsunami]

Originally posted by Ghost of Duluth
Weehoo, you tell em brother. I hate to say this but it resounds true. There is NO replacement for displacement. Yea, yea, yea, I know, a turbo. You can also put a turbo on the V8 though too. So it works both ways.

Gotta preach the truth!!
Btw Ghost how's the FD runnin?

Liquid: a 408 would be about 6.8 liters

[Liquid]

holy shiet! 6.8! damn thats almost 7 liters, wow i wonder what a tuner could do with a 7 liter toyota motor.

[zdss14]

dont hate apreasiate (sp?). dude the talk about the japenese making better motors is bs. dont get me wrong here, i love imports, but i love all cars of all countrys, and belive me many people in many countrys can make great high hores power motors, and cars of all type weither american, japenese, german, etc....not one place builds the best.

[Liquid]

thats stupid, thats like theres not one place that makes better silk, or choclate, cheese, or alcohol.. You pick a 96 normal economy car from ford and one from toyot. I guarntee that the toyota makes better gas milage with a smaller motor and with the same or more hp. My point is that if there was a 7 liter performance toyota motor is would make more hp than that stang. Can anyone name one domestic na motor that makes 100per liter in a production car because i can't off the top of my head. Even the new viper is an 8.3 liter v10 that makes only 500hp wowza

[zdss14]

the automotive industry is far to competetive for there to be one person or place that stands above the rest. im not saying how big gm is to ford or toyota either. also your saying that japan is to the auto world as switzerland (sp?) is to cheese, or germany is to beer, i garentie you that a lot of people would greatly disagree with you, it's all opinion any way.

[TeamSLIPdrifter]

I never said super street was any better. Super Street is mostly a bunch of crap when it comes to cover cars. Personally i hate Super Street. I think its one of the worst magazines out there about cars. But 1000hp for a daily driver autocross car is kinda hard to believe. I believe that car create a ton of power, i dont doubt that for sure. But i find it hard to believe 1000 on a daily driver autocross car. And for those saying oh it can beat any common skyline and supra.... a 1000 horse stang that can handle like a vette and stop on a dime isnt common.... its hella rare. So putting this car against say an amuse supra is pretty fair. Especially since the car doesnt hit 1000 horses and is in limited production and yes, it can still be tuned alot further. Autocross is skill, not power. About amounts of boost a car can handle, the stock 4g63t mitsu motor can handle 23 with BONE STOCK internals and cams. And thats a 2 liter 4 cylinder. I did get messed up on the VeilSide Skyline specs, its less then 1600, i was in fact misinformed. But when you argue power per liter, japanese motors are in fact superior. 4 cylinders can create tons of power. What about Eric Aguilars 9 second ALL MOTOR honda. What about the 7 SECOND dsms that have been dominating american competition since 1989. Hell bone stock first gen DSMs were rated at 210 to ALL FOUR WHEELS out of 4 cylinder motors. EVOs are capable of over 700 on stock bottom end and they use the same 4 banger motors as DSMs. And you cant argue reliability with japanese motors. This is my proof of a replacment for displacment. And as to making 1000 horsepower on 3 liters, i have a better example. Mitsubishi creates 1000+ horses with 2 LITERS, and 4 CYLINDERS compared to this mustang that has 1000 horsepower on 6.8 liters and 8 cylinders. Knowing this.... this stang doesnt really impress me. At all. Super Street also built a few cars but none were for drag racing. They were for autocross. One was a 94 Nissan Sentra and another was a like a 96? (not exact sure on the year) Toyota Celica. And the celica posts track records of well over 1.0 Gs. I would also like to point out that everyone wants the import guys to drag against this stang. Its an autocross car. How about we autocross it against a few imports then come back and tell me the results.

[FALCON EF DRIFT]

Hahaha yeah gotta agree with u guys, there is NO replacement for displacement! That Stang is a beast These cars can be daily drivers, most of my mates have 5.7lt HSV Commodores and 5.4lt FPV Faclon GT's that are worked off its *Censored**Censored**Censored*, like a friend of mine has a Supercharged EL Ford Faclon XR6 that pulls 8 second passes and is a daily driver lol! Anyone ever seen our BA Falcon XR6 Turbo's? For a 4lt Straight six T, with an APS Twin Turbo kit they chew through highly modded Skylines, Supra's and NSX's. And now our new GT's are quad cam 5.4lt V8's, it wont be hard to reach 1000HP.

[Tybalt]

I dont see why everyone seems to think that import motors are better. I love my eight-six with its 1.6 liter going to 7.5k rpm stock. But there are really only 2 Jap motors that are the beasts of the family and they are the RB and JZ series. Those 2 are the most reliable and best for power with a stock bottom end. Hell I have blown 2 headgaskets on my 130hp (guessing) car, then there are 1,000 hp supras and skylines with stock bottom ends as daily drivers.

[Parry]

Originally posted by Liquid
how many liters does that motor have? anyone know? The only reason I ask is because thats a performance race motor, even if it's a daily driver. There are many supras and skylines that are daily drivers and make 1000hp on3 liters! Everyone knows that a 5+ liter toyota or nissan performance race motor would blow the doors off that. I don't see any argument here, the japanese make many more efficient and better motors that make more power per liter. I bet you can't think of the first company to make a production car that made 100hp per liter na? hmmm......honda

Stop being silly. That's a pushrod v8, 2 valves per cylender. I'm sure a Toyota-made motor with the same basic design wouldn't do better. They're engineers, not magicians.

http://www.kierf.net/vids/top_gear46.avi

Yes, that's exactly correct. Now watch it again and chew on the fact that people put those motors in the single digits.

After reading the article, I also see no reason why the claims wouldn't be true. The cars got good suspension, wide meats, a noshit motor that's built on a proven and reproven platform with proven and reproven technologies, and apears to be well put together.