1000 hp Mustang

[Liquid]

mmmm at nopi

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cardomain

[Ghost of Duluth]

There you go. 250 with fuel tuning. That makes more sense. A STOCK SR is not going to lay down the numbers that you are saying. No way. Stock turbo isn't going to stay together over 14 too well either.

Only reason I am sticking you about it is because everyone on this site is under the impression that putting an SR in their car is the ONLY way to make horsepower. SR swaps stock are not fast at all. It's a mod that people are better off not doing as a beginner. Needless spending of money.

[Parry]

Originally posted by Ghost of Duluth
There you go. 250 with fuel tuning. That makes more sense. A STOCK SR is not going to lay down the numbers that you are saying. No way. Stock turbo isn't going to stay together over 14 too well either.

That's what I was saying. He's not stock, so the inclusion of his car in that part of his argument, after claiming it to be stock, was just...errr...confused on his part.

Only reason I am sticking you about it is because everyone on this site is under the impression that putting an SR in their car is the ONLY way to make horsepower. SR swaps stock are not fast at all. It's a mod that people are better off not doing as a beginner. Needless spending of money.

You're the man.

[Liquid]

hah i do have a stock motor, motor being the keyword

BACK TO TOPIC I wonder if that stang could drift

[Ghost of Duluth]

Why couldn't it? Name me one reason.

[Liquid]

well i was pretty sure that that year foxbody was prett heavy not to mention that 7liter motor.

[OBAKASAN]

Originally posted by Ghost of Duluth
Besides, 1000 hp is 1000 hp, doesn't matter if it's nitrous hp or not, it's 1000 hp. You can't argue with that. For Drifting though, not my cup of tea but that thing is a monster. Plus it looks kinda stock looking. Shiver the thought of pulling up next to him and trying him.

Can you say "sleeper"?

[Ghost of Duluth]

Well let's see.

1992 Mustang GT 2834-3000 lbs
1991-1996 240SX 2700-2900 lbs.

The 408 Windsor motor is a small block made from a 351 if memory serves me correctly. So the weight isn't much different. Add on the Supercharger and remove some other weight and you remain about the same weight. So, it stands to reason that if it weighs about the same, is RWD and handles better, then it should Drift right about the same. The car has coilovers and full suspension treatment. The power is ridiculously higher than a 240 but everything else is around the same. I see no other reason why, do you?

[mk3mann]

the mustang does not have the lure of a drift car....it doesnt have that specific "air" around it...

yes IT CAN BE VERY QUICK.....but its still a mustang you see everyday...

I am gonig up to a cruise in tonight with the middle tenn. Z car club, i am taking some pics...

there should be some mk3-4 surpas up there, and some ferrari's and some NSX's and what not...

and not to mention the muscle cars....LOL

if you live in muscle car territory like i do here in Tn. You would understand my point of view on things....i see them everyday...blown dodge chargers ( reminds me of the F&F hahaha) Hemi Cudas pushing 8's in th 1/4 and my friends 1200 h+ Buick Grand National...

i am different. I drive a Mk3 supra turbo. Not alot of those around here anymore much less taken care of. I want to stand out differntly and make people say "dayummmmm"....when i smoke a 5.0 or a cobra .....and i cant wait to say ( its a 1987 .....hhahaha)

[nissanguy_24]

Um did got long fast.. i havent been payng attention. As for the S13. some of the guys on nico are pushing 250hp with SR 20s running S14 turbos.. the S13 turbo isnt that great. However a year or two ago alot said 250 on a Sr20's stock turbo was rediculous. Most these guys are running lightened fly wheels and pullies and exhaust systems ect.. Nothing big but alot of little things to make it to 250 with a nice thick power band as far as a 2 liter goes.

My S13 which is the base model and had some of the rear stripped out weighed 2700 with a automatic transmission. it probably weighs about 20 pounds less then that now. for manual go ahead and subtract about 60 pounds. I have some pics up on Lorin's site. i could give anyone interested a link so they can see what all i stripped, its not too much.

Um yeah someone feel me in on what this arguement is about please..

[Parry]

Originally posted by nissanguy_24
Um yeah someone feel me in on what this arguement is about please..

There's no real argument, I don't think. Mostly it's the uneducated bagging on the Mustang because it's either slow, heavy, can't turn, or is too common.

I doubt half the people who knock on them have driven one.

[Liquid]

Ive owned two mustangs, and i couldn't be happier that i've got rid of them. I dunno why but my 240 just seems like its handles much better.

[Ghost of Duluth]

Um Hello mr Mark Supra dude. I live in Knoxville. Your arguement really holds no grounds. The Mustang doesn't have the "air" as you put it, Why is that? Oh yea, forgot, not Japanese. Thats pretty lame. So basically you are saying that because it's not Japanese, it can't be a Drifter. How uneducated you are if that's what you think. But that's your shoe, you walk in it.

As for seeing them everyday, look around. 240's are EVERYWHERE. All over the place. There's 3 of em in my neighborhood and they are all owned by rednecks. So the point of your arguement is what?

What's even funnier is your car is the fat overweight one. Let's look at specs.

Mustang 2834 lbs.
Your 1987 Supra Turbo 3529 and 3468 for the L Type.
Holy Moly....you got him by over 500 lbs. Actually, you outweigh the convertible by almost 150 lbs.

Let's just look at the rest of the specs.
Supra first.
Length 181.9
Width 68.7
Height 51.6
Horsepower 230 with 246 ft/lbs torque for Turbo and 200 with 185 ft/lbs torque on the N/A.
That's only a 30 hp gain over the N/A Hmmm. Thought it would be more.
MPG city 18 Hway 23 for your Supra.

Now the Mustang.
Length179.6
Width 68.3
Height 52.1
Horsepower 225 with 300ft/lbs torque.
MPG city 17 Hway 24

So let's break it down to brass tacks. The Mustang is shorter, thinner, same height, has only 5 hp less, 50 more lbs of torque and weighs in at over 600 lbs less than your Supra. It also get's the EXACT same gas mileage. Only 1 less in the city and 1 more on the Hway. AND it costs less too. Now numbers don't lie, the Mustang is the same car as the Supra but lighter and a much easier power curve. No turbo to spool on you. Sounds like I would rather slide the Mustang, oh and let's not forget cheaper on repairs too. Oh yea, shorter wheelbase too by almost 2.5 inches.

Now you decide. I am not bagging on your car in the least. I love the Supra's but for everyone to automatically think that Japanese car's are superior and to not even look at the differences and compare, is just plain ignorant. The Mustang can and will hold it's own in the Drift world. Don't think just cause every Redneck owns one that it can't perform. There's a reason every Redneck has one. They are fast and cheap. Shoot, I might just get one after the FD sells. Just to prove points. Would be fun. Only reason someone hasn't done it yet is because they think like you do. It's not "Cool" to Drift an American car silly rabbit, Drifts are for imports.

[Parry]

that was awesome.